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Preparing Camera Source Files for Editing

Jake Segraves
posted this on October 20, 2011 05:06 PM

So you've shot a bunch of footage on your GoPro or DSLR camera...now what? Since the H.264 file format used in camera is not designed for editing, you should convert your files into the GoPro/CineForm file format. This format was specifically designed for editing and is compatible with most popular non-linear editing applications (iMovie, Final Cut Pro, Premiere, AVID, Vegas, etc.).

Step 1) Launch GoPro CineForm Studio and Import your camera's source files by using the 'IMPORT NEW FILES" button in the top left-hand corner of the application window.

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Step 2) Select the first clip in the bin to open it in the playback window. If you only wish to convert a portion of your video, use the playback controls and the IN and OUT buttons to trim the beginning and ending of the clip.

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Step 3) Select a File Name and Directory Location for the converted clip.

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 (Optional Step) Use the "ADVANCED SETTINGS" to set the Resolution, Frame Size, File Format and Quality of the converted file...or just leave these at their defaults.  Please refer to the GoPro CineForm Studio User Guide for more information about these options.

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Step 4) Click the "ADD CLIP TO CONVERSION LIST" button to send it to the Conversion List Bin.

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Step 5) Add more clips to the Conversion List by repeating steps 2-4 for the remaining clips in your bin. Then click the "CONVERT ALL" button.

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CONGRATULATIONS! You now have new GoPro/CineForm files saved in the folder you specified in the "SAVE TO" location in Step 3. These new files can be imported into most popular non-linear editing applications... or take them into the GoPro CineForm Studio EDIT room to make color and framing adjustments.

 

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Serena

Yes, good demonstration of the interface. But somewhat tedious compared to my usual batch conversion using HDLink. Excellent  for Hero camera users.

February 01, 2012 03:50 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

For bulk batch conversions using the same settings, HDLink is very sufficient. If you want to trim the source clip's in and out points or have custom conversion settings on a per clip-basis, then Studio is the way to go.  Thanks for the feedback, Serena.

February 01, 2012 03:55 PM
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John Wise

What settings are recommended? What is the difference in Film Scan and other options, do I need to choose 4:4:4:, is this important? Is 12-bit an option, what settings are optimal and what do they add when I pull my footage into After Effects? If I'm going to be performing the rest of my workflow in After Effects and Premiere with final color correction in SpeedGrade, do I need FirstLight? Can the CineForm codec's be read by Prelude and upon ingestion of footage can I transcode to CineForm there? Then, if all I really need is the CineForm codec to prepare my footage for intermediary production, will there be a version of CineForm where I can just purchase the codec?

April 12, 2012 10:34 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

The settings will vary based on your source files and ultimate destination. Please resend this question to support@cineform.com and from there we can tackle your workflow questions. Thanks.

April 18, 2012 05:22 PM
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Adrian Hargrave

Is it just me, or have we lost the ability to set in and out points on our DSLR footage through Cineform Studio? As soon as I import footage from my 5D, the trim controls disappear. This never used to happen..

July 24, 2012 04:54 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Adrian, its not just you. We had to remove the trim options from DSLR content because it was not functioning consistently. We may put them back in a future build.

August 03, 2012 12:37 PM
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Daniel Yeomans

After converting my files and importing them in premiere, all the audio has disappeared. Any idea why this might be?? 

October 13, 2012 02:04 AM
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Andreas

Hi, I have a problem with batch conversion: I got handed about 200 .mov clips together with an .xml for editing. I want to convert the .h264 clips into cineform. However I have to keep the names intact in order to relink them in the editing. So, HDLink would be my first choice, because GoPro Studio does not allow for batch conversion. However, in HDLink I just cannot find the option for the output directory for a "Convert" operation. In prefs I can define a "Capture Location" but this is not for conversion. The conversion section in the prefs only offer a "Destination File Format". But that is already and should stay .mov which won't work because the files get output into the exact same directory. What am I doing wrong? How can I get it to output identically named files in a destination of my choice?

October 23, 2012 02:08 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Define the output location by choosing the folder in the 'capture location'. Then check the box that says to 'use capture location for converted files'.

October 23, 2012 02:11 PM
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Andreas

Thanks a lot Jake, I missed that option!

October 23, 2012 02:24 PM
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Terry Hope

Hello, question about preparing the MP4 files (Not using Protune setting) that GoPro Hero 2 creates before importing in the Cineform Studio
I sometimes record up to 10-20 minutes of video, and before I import into Cineform I need rotate the video 90 degrees because my GoPro is mounted sideways when filming... plus I trim/cut multiple frames (on b-frames) thru out the video file ...
I have tried various export/saving settings (and changing the container from avi to MP4) using Avidemux and VirtualDub, but Cineform will not import/recognize any files I make with these programs...

 trimming and rotating before importing to Cineform with Avidemux/Virtualdub possible ?

October 24, 2012 02:38 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

GoPro Cineform Studio has flip and trimming options within the application itself. Use those rather than your 3rd party apps.

October 24, 2012 09:09 AM
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Terry Hope

Hi, yes Jake.. I have tried using Cineform 1.3.1 for this, but horizontal and vertical flipping is not the same as rotate 90 degrees

October 24, 2012 09:26 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Studio will only recognize mp4 files directly from the camera. After conversion you can use the framing tools to rotate it 90 degrees.

October 24, 2012 09:46 AM
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Terry Hope

hi Jake, okay thanks... Ive found that after I import my GoPro clip 848x480 120fps to Cineform Studio and I change the Frame Rate in advanced settings to 59.94 or 29.97fps with perserving Audio Pitch selected or left unchecked, and also Speed Up 2x-3x with or without Motion Blur .. . Audio is lost.. basically whenever I use the Speed Up tool audio is lost ?

October 29, 2012 06:16 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

It will preserve the audio if you are just changing the framerate from 120 to something else, but the audio is deliberately disabled when you choose the Speed Up options. That's too much for it to process. So this is normal behavior.

October 30, 2012 11:26 AM
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Marco Vindas

Hey, Im new to GoPro and all Im trying to do is convert my 25 min MP4  file (shot with GoPro Hero 2) into AVI, with GoPro CineForm... Ive tried by either changing advance settings (cause I need lower quality files) or by leaving the settings as they are, but, the process starts first with no problems and then it just stops and wont go any further...

 

Ive tried several times and I just cant figure out what Im doing wrong!!  

November 03, 2012 06:33 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

For conversion issues, please open a support request and we'll troubleshoot from there.

November 05, 2012 09:33 AM
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Robert Clary

"GoPro Cineform Studio has flip and trimming options within the application itself. Use those rather than your 3rd party apps."

My trim controls disappear when I add a clip.

November 18, 2012 07:35 AM
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James O'Connor

"My trim controls disappear when I add a clip."

 

Same. GoPro Hero 3 Black purchased at Best Buy 11/18/2012

November 18, 2012 12:46 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

@James New build coming out within a week or so will address this issue with the Hero 3 Black Edition.

November 19, 2012 10:38 AM
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Sam Kozer

Unlike on pictures above when I add a .mov file from my iphone, it plays OK with sound in main (central) window but Advanced Setting does not have a Audio Source-option.

And, therefore, I think my output avi-file does not have any audio! Any ideas, reasons, solutions, please.

May 03, 2013 09:27 PM
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Sam Kozer

Just try to import/convert an mp4 file from Sanyo camera. It also doesn't have an audio optiom in settings. But the resulting avi-file does have an audio.

Is it a problem with files produced by iphone or something else?

May 03, 2013 09:35 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Hi Sam,

iPhone files are not supported because they don't contain consistent framerate details. The software was actually designed to support GoPro mp4 files and Canon DSLR mov files. We made no claims for support for other cameras. If they work, that is an added benefit, but not something we intended. With this in mind, I don't have any suggestions on how to get these other 'unsupported' formats to work in Studio, but you can use other tools (Adobe Media  Encoder, etc.) to convert them into GoPro CineForm files.

May 06, 2013 09:10 AM
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dan bauer

Hi Jake,

whenever I load a video (GoPro HD Hero MP4), the trim buttons disappear!

What's wrong?

Thanks

May 16, 2013 04:44 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Those do disappear for some higher datarate source files. This is deliberate because the in and out points were not being accurately used in the converted filed. You may be able to still mark in and out points using the I and O keys on your keyboard.

May 16, 2013 09:48 AM
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Frank

Hi Jake, Hopefully you can help me. I have the Hero 2, and after converting .mp4 video to .avi in CineForm, if I go to edit the .avi, all I get is a blank white screen in the main viewpane. If I click play, I get audio, but no video. On another forum, it was suggested to me to download current graphics drivers for my laptop (a Toshiba w/AMD Turion X2), but I still have the problem.

Any thoughts or suggestions? At this point, I can't edit any vids in CineForm.

Thanks

June 01, 2013 12:09 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Hi Frank. Try the suggestions here:

http://support.cineform.com/entries/23064418-Export-to-MP4-Fails

And please open a support request if the problem persists.

June 03, 2013 09:36 AM
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riyad

hi jake

 

it's the first time i use cineform

i want to ask why my cineform coverter stop working when i click the convert all button, i want to convert a time lapse photo from my gopro, but when i click the convert button, suddenly a pop up windows say my cineform converter has stopped working, why that happen and how can i convert my time lapse so i can edit my video?

August 24, 2013 03:38 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Hi Riyad,

I suggest you open a support request and we can troubleshoot your issue from there.

August 26, 2013 09:45 AM
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Djoss14

Hi Jake, 
i try to convert (in STEP2) a video 480*360 (from a webcam) with 30fps, and when i convert it, i lost the sound (and the audio tool is gone) ! 
What can i do ? 

Thanks for your answer. 
Djoss

October 14, 2013 04:15 PM
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Jake Segraves
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October 15, 2013 01:33 PM
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Stephen Durham

Jake,

On August 3rd, 2012 you mentioned the possibility of re-adding in DSLR trimming in Step 1.  Now that GoPro Studio 2.0 is out do you have any update on this.  It's really a pain to deal with longer DSLR clips where I only want to grab a few seconds out of it on my Canon T4i.

Also, my Canon .mov files error out no in the initial conversion unless I chose "Speed Up".  It doesn't matter if I use source framerate or pick a new one.  Nothing works without the Speed Up option.

October 18, 2013 09:28 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

The DSLR trimming feature is not yet re-enabled. I don't have a timeframe for that either. For your other question, please open a support request and we'll troubleshoot it from there.

October 21, 2013 09:26 AM
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Magdalena Martin

Hi,
After converting my files and importing them, all the audio has disappeared. Any idea why this might be?? The sound is fine when I import it, but as soon as I convert it disappear?

October 22, 2013 03:04 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

If you're not getting sound, please see this kb article:

 

https://cineform.zendesk.com/entries/20040048-No-Sound-in-AVCHD-Con...

October 22, 2013 10:17 AM
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OneDirection Dad 5/5

Question.. I have a Go Pro Hero 3 Black and after I have converted clips using Cineform Studio (latest version) NONE of the sliders in the editing section do anything... when I slide the zoom..nothing happens. Brightness / contrast..nothing changes..and yes the little eye icon is on...

 

I download the clip from the GoPro to a folder on my PC...import it into Cineform studio and convert it... but none of the sliders do anything.

 

Can you advise what to do.

 

I have PC

Windows 7 64bit

I7 2600K

16Gb Ram

Dual Nvidia GTX 670's in SLI.

December 19, 2013 10:11 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

OneDirection Dad please open a support request for this and we can troubleshoot from there.

December 20, 2013 09:20 AM
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Denis Fedin

Thanks fo tutorial, fo me its helpful! Asc me please why Cineform reduces the size of the frame From 1920 to 960p, when i covert to AVI

 https://cloud.mail.ru/public/be7c5fbe9457/original%20frame.jpg

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/822084acf2b5/converted%20frame.jpg

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/8a758824e4ad/File%20properties.jpg

February 22, 2014 04:04 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Hi Denis,

It should not change the framesize. Please open a support request and we can troubleshoot this issue from there.

February 22, 2014 11:21 AM
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Dixon Odendaal

Hi Jake,

Hope you can help me. I'm still new to Gopro Studio, but I must say it's quite beginners friendly. I have one problem though. I'm trying to import some photos taken with my iPhone and I followed all the right steps by importing the jpg files and then converting them to avi, but as soon as I convert them my GoPro Studio goes unresponsive and I have to restart. I even tried converting it to avi files in another program and when I try to add that to my GoPro Studio project it gives me a message saying that the files I'm trying to import is not GoPro files.

February 24, 2014 08:01 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

Hi Dixon. Please open a support request and we can troubleshoot this issue from there.

February 25, 2014 09:13 AM
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Mårten WIkner

Any update on the Canon DSLR-trimming? Is it difficult to implement?

Would make the Studio a perfect importer/prelude to Premiere CC(or other program) for final edit with flat template for client. And with clip-export of all single trimmed clips to media/bank/shop with an added Protune-template. 

April 06, 2014 04:39 PM
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Stephen Durham

I'm gonna echo Mårten's comment.  I was anxiously awaiting the trimming for my T4i video files, but the recent update to 2.0.319 offered no fixes.  Very disappointed!  Any ETA on this feature that GoPro still advertises on the Cineform Studio software webpage, but doesn't deliver on???

April 06, 2014 06:12 PM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

DSLR trimming was implemented at the start but we found that due to in consistent GOP lengths in the source h.264 files that the in and out points were not being recognized accurately. Thus, we removed trimming from these files. Since the issue has to do with the source files, there's not much we can do to make this work. Stephen, if you want to point out the page that is saying this, I can update the text so that it is no longer advertised as a feature.

April 07, 2014 09:16 AM
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Mårten WIkner

Jake,maybe I dont remember right. But doesnt it say somewhere that exactly that is the problem also with trimming GoPro-files. That it can miss a few frames in the trim?

April 07, 2014 10:26 AM
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Jake Segraves
GoPro

It should be more accurate with GoPro files. If not, that would be something to open a support request about.

April 07, 2014 10:42 AM
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Piers Ross-Roberts

When i try and export my movie in any format it comes up with a box saying "Error Preparing ExporterEncoderFileWriter" i am using windows 8 and have reinstalled the gopro studio. Is there a way to fix this?

April 19, 2014 03:56 AM