3D Monitors and Graphics Cards with GoPro CineForm Studio (MacOS)

 

We’re often asked which 3D monitors we support with Neo3D, and which monitors we recommend.  The short answer is that we support most 3D monitors, although there are some minor platform-specific differences. 
In terms of which monitor we recommend, the answer really depends on your needs and your budget. Personally we prefer using a larger monitor for post such as a 46″ because it is more immersive than a smaller 24″ monitor.  But 24″ monitors are less expensive, so again it is dependent on your needs and budget.
CineForm supports the following 3D display formats which cover most monitors, but read below for some platform differences.
- Anaglyph: Red-Cyan, Amber-Blue, Green-Magenta
- Frame Compatible (Passive): side-by-side, over-under, field interleave
- Sequential Frame (Active): Windows only using Nvidia 3D mode
- Dual-link stereo: requires AJA Kona3 or Nvidia dual-link HD-SDI card (Nvidia Win only).  Used for driving RealD, Dolby, or XpanD 3D projection systems.
Note about consumer 3D TVs: Most newer consumer 3D TVs use an active display technology (active IR glasses).  But in most cases they accept side-by-side as input.  Internally they convert the side-by-side input into a frame-sequential 3D display.  If you use a consumer 3D TV you will normally drive this using side-by-side.
Dual-stream / dual-link: You can directly drive RealD, Dolby, and XpanD 3D projectors using Neo3D from:
  – Final Cut Pro through a Kona 3 card in dual-link stereo mode when Neo3D is installed.  
  – Premiere Pro (Win only for now) using either Kona 3 card or Nvidia HD-SDI.
MAC-FCP and MAC-Media Composer v5
3D monitoring on Mac using Final Cut Pro and Media Composer v5 occurs via output from FCP or MC respectively.  First Light does not (currently) drive a 3D monitor directly although that will change soon. 
On Mac you select the desired 3D monitoring mode using the upper-right CineForm menu bar icon.  This mode selector defines the way the 3D images are passed through Mac applications by Neo3D.
Note about sequential frame (active): It is not yet possible to drive monitors that require sequential frame input (such as gaming monitors).  This is because FCP “owns” interaction with the graphics card, and FCP doesn’t know anything about generating sequential frame stereo output through the graphcs card.  All other 3D modes mentioned above are supported.  Per the discussion above about consumer 3D TVs, some active monitors will accept side-by-side as input – these monitors are fine.
Graphics card / Kona card (FCP): We have worked closely with AJA on our 3D workflow in FCP.  In the following situations an AJA card is required for Neo3D with FCP: 1) your source material is not 1920×1080 (such as 2K); or 2) you intend to drive a dual-link stereo monitor or projector. 
FCP – Cinema Desktop: If your 3D sources are always 1920×1080 and you do not need to drive a dual-link monitor/projector, you can choose to use the cinema desktop mode (second DVI output) from within FCP to drive your 3D TV. 

We’re often asked which 3D monitors we support with Neo3D, and which monitors we recommend.  The short answer is that we support most 3D monitors, although there are some minor platform-specific differences. 

In terms of which monitor we recommend, the answer really depends on your needs and your budget. Personally we prefer using a larger monitor for post such as a 46″ because it is more immersive than a smaller 24″ monitor.  But 24″ monitors are less expensive, so again it is dependent on your needs and budget.

CineForm supports the following 3D display formats which cover most monitors, but read below for some platform differences.

- Anaglyph: Red-Cyan, Amber-Blue, Green-Magenta

- Frame Compatible (Passive): side-by-side, over-under, field interleave

- Sequential Frame (Active): Windows only using Nvidia 3D mode

- Dual-link stereo: requires AJA Kona3 or Nvidia dual-link HD-SDI card (Nvidia Win only).  Used for driving RealD, Dolby, or XpanD 3D projection systems.

Note about consumer 3D TVs: Most newer consumer 3D TVs use an active display technology (active IR glasses).  But in most cases they accept side-by-side as input.  Internally they convert the side-by-side input into a frame-sequential 3D display.  If you use a consumer 3D TV you will normally drive this using side-by-side.

Dual-stream / dual-link: You can directly drive RealD, Dolby, and XpanD 3D projectors using Neo3D from:  – Final Cut Pro through a Kona 3 card in dual-link stereo mode when Neo3D is installed.    – Premiere Pro (Win only for now) using either Kona 3 card or Nvidia HD-SDI.

MAC-FCP and MAC-Media Composer v5

 3D monitoring on Mac using Final Cut Pro and Media Composer v5 occurs via output from FCP or MC respectively.  First Light does not (currently) drive a 3D monitor directly although that will change soon. 

On Mac you select the desired 3D monitoring mode using the upper-right CineForm menu bar icon.  This mode selector defines the way the 3D images are passed through Mac applications by Neo3D.

Note about sequential frame (active): It is not yet possible to drive monitors that require sequential frame input (such as gaming monitors).  This is because FCP “owns” interaction with the graphics card, and FCP doesn’t know anything about generating sequential frame stereo output through the graphcs card.  All other 3D modes mentioned above are supported.  Per the discussion above about consumer 3D TVs, some active monitors will accept side-by-side as input – these monitors are fine.

Graphics card / Kona card (FCP): We have worked closely with AJA on our 3D workflow in FCP.  In the following situations an AJA card is required for Neo3D with FCP: 1) your source material is not 1920×1080 (such as 2K); or 2) you intend to drive a dual-link stereo monitor or projector. 

FCP – Cinema Desktop: If your 3D sources are always 1920×1080 and you do not need to drive a dual-link monitor/projector, you can choose to use the cinema desktop mode (second DVI output) from within FCP to drive your 3D TV. 

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    Dan Baron

    Does FCP Cinema Desktop work with all frame rates on all 3DTV's, such as 1080p24, 1080p25, 1080p30, 1080i50 and 1080i60. We were using a Panasonic Active 3DTV via a Matrox MXO2 and found that the TV did not support 1080i50 and 1080p25. Does Cinema Desktop always work with all frame rates, or does it depend on the monitor?

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    Craig Davidson

    The frame rates you can select on the monitor does depend on the market for that particular monitor.  The 3DTV's we have here are all designed for the US market so support 1080i60, 1080p60, 1080p30 and 1080p24.  That said, FCP Cinema Desktop does work playing back 25p material.  

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    Dan Baron

    So, even if the 3DTV does not support 25p and 50i, it will still display these frame rates accurately using Cinema Desktop? Would the quality of preview be comparable to using a 3DTV that supports the actual frame rate and feeding the signal through a Matrox, BlackMagic or Kona card?

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    Aka Michael Scroggins

    An update for 2014 would be cool.

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